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Friday, 9 September 2011

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, خالد شيخ محمد‎;, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, and additionally known by at least fifty aliases) (born March 1, 1964, or April 14, 1965) is a Pakistani in U.S. custody, in Guantamano Bay for alleged acts of terrorism, including mass murder of civilians. He was charged on February 11, 2008, with war crimes and murder by a U.S. military commission and faces the death penalty if convicted.


Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was a member of Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda organization, although he lived in Kuwait rather than Afghanistan, heading al-Qaeda's propaganda operations from sometime around 1999. The 9/11 Commission Report alleges that he was "the principal architect of the 9/11 attacks." He is also alleged to have confessed to a role in many of the most significant terrorist plots over the last twenty years, including the World Trade Center 1993 bombings, the Operation Bojinka plot, an aborted 2002 attack on the U.S. Bank Tower in Los Angeles, the Bali nightclub bombings, the failed bombing of American Airlines Flight 63, the Millennium Plot, and the murder of Daniel Pearl.
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was captured in Rawalpindi, Pakistan, on March 1, 2003, by the Pakistani ISI, possibly in a joint action with agents of the American Diplomatic Security Service, and has been in U.S. custody since that time. In September 2006, the U.S. government announced it had moved Mohammed from a secret prison to the facility at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp. The Red Cross, Human Rights Watch and Mohammed have claimed that the harsh treatment and waterboarding he received from U.S. authorities amounts to torture.
In March 2007, after four years in captivity, including six months of detention and alleged torture at Guantanamo Bay, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed — as it was claimed by a Combatant Status Review Tribunal Hearing in Guantanamo Bay — confessed to masterminding the September 11 attacks, the Richard Reid shoe bombing attempt to blow up an airliner over the Atlantic Ocean, the Bali nightclub bombing in Indonesia, the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and various foiled attacks.
On December 8, 2008, Mohammed and four co-defendants sent a note to the military judge expressing their desire to confess and plead guilty.


Early life
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is reported to have been born in Kuwait to parents from Balochistan in Pakistan. He spent some of his formative years in Kuwait, just like his nephew, Ramzi Yousef (three years his junior). He joined the Muslim Brotherhood at age sixteen. He returned to Pakistan soon after, and after spending some time there, went to the United States for further study.
He attended Chowan University, a small Baptist school in Murfreesboro, North Carolina, for a semester (beginning in 1983) before transferring to the North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University and completing a degree in mechanical engineering in 1986. The following year he went to Afghanistan, where he and his brothers (Zahed, Abed, and Aref) fought against the Soviet Union during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. (Some sources claim that Khalid was fighting in Afghanistan before he moved to the United States.) There, he was introduced to Abdul Rasul Sayyaf, of the Islamic Union Party. The 9/11 Commission Report notes on page 149 that "Sayyaf was close to Ahmed Shah Massoud, the leader of the Afghan Northern Alliance".
The 9/11 Commission Report also notes that, "By his own account, KSM's animus toward the United States stemmed not from his experiences there as a student, but rather from his violent disagreement with U.S. foreign policy favoring Israel."
However, according to a U.S. intelligence summary reported on August 29, 2009 by the Washington Post, his time in the U.S did lead him to become a terrorist. "KSM's limited and negative experience in the United States — which included a brief jail stay because of unpaid bills — almost certainly helped propel him on his path to becoming a terrorist," according to this intelligence summary. "He stated that his contact with Americans, while minimal, confirmed his view that the United States was a debauched and racist country."
According to the 9/11 Commission, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed after the Afghan jihad went to work for an electronics company, working on communications equipment. In 1988, he helped to head a non-governmental organization paid for by Abu Sayyaf, which sponsored and aided Afghan fighters against the Soviets. He continued this work until 1992, when he fought with Muslim fighters in Bosnia and Herzegovina and supported this effort financially. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed moved to Qatar to work in a government office as a project engineer for the Qatari Ministry of Electricity and Water. He stayed at this job until 1996.


Philippines 1994–1995
While he was in the Philippines in late 1994 and early 1995, he said that he was a Saudi or a Qatari plywood exporter and used the aliases Abdul Majid and Salem Ali.
According to Philippine police, a waitress named Arminda Costudio at the Manila Bay Club in Pasay City claimed that she met a man who introduced himself as Qatari businessman Salem Ali, who she believes was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, based on his fattened middle finger — a feature that Abdul Hakim Murad has also described. She said she met the man twice at the Shangri-La Hotel in Makati City in mid-1994. Each time, he wore a white tuxedo and paid for dinner with a wad of cash. He gave out candies to group members. Costudio later became the girlfriend of Wali Khan Amin Shah while he was in Metro Manila.


Bosnia, 1995
Bosnian War
News agency Adnkronos reports Khalid Sheik Mohammed traveled to Bosnia in September 1995, and worked there, under an assumed name, for Egyptian Relief, as a humanitarian aid worker. Quoting a Sarajevo paper called Daily Fokus, they reported local intelligence officials confirmed he obtained Bosnian citizenship in November 1995. Those officials told Daily Fokus that Egyptian Relief was a front for the Muslim Brotherhood.


Qatar, avoiding arrest
In early 1996 he fled to Pakistan to avoid capture by U.S. authorities.In his flight from Qatar he was sheltered by Sheikh Abdullah Bin Khalid Al-Thani, who was the Qatari Minister of Religious Affairs in 1996.


Alleged terrorist activities


World Trade Center 1993 bombings
Main article: World Trade Center 1993 bombings
This attack was planned by a group of conspirators including Ramzi Yousef, Mahmud Abouhalima, Mohammad Salameh, Nidal Ayyad and Ahmad Ajaj. They received financing from Khalid Shaikh Mohammed.
Operation Bojinka
Main article: Operation Bojinka
After seeing the respect that Ramzi Yousef had gained from the World Trade Center 1993 bombings, Mohammed decided to engage more directly in anti-U.S. activities as well. He traveled to the Philippines in 1994 to work with Yousef on Operation Bojinka, a Manila-based plot to destroy twelve commercial airliners flying routes between the United States, East Asia, and Southeast Asia. The 9/11 Commission Report says that "this marked the first time KSM took part in the actual planning of a terrorist operation."
"Using airline timetables, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Ramzi Yousef devised a scheme whereby five men could, in a single day, board 12 flights — two each for three of the men, three each for the other two — assemble and deposit their bombs and exit the planes, leaving timers to ignite the bombs up to several days afterward. By the time the bombs exploded, the men would be far away and far from reasonable suspicion. The math was simple: 12 flights with at least 400 people per flight. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 5,000 deaths. It would be a day of glory for them, calamity for the Americans they supposed would fill the aircraft."
Bojinka plans also included renting or buying a Cessna, packing it with explosives and crash landing it into CIA headquarters, with a backup plan to hijack the twelfth airliner in the air and use that instead. This information was reported in detail to the U.S. at the time. This point was not mentioned in KSM's confession to involvement in thirty-one terrorist plots, including 9/11.
In December 1994, Yousef had engaged in a test of a bomb on Philippine Airlines Flight 434 using only about ten percent of the explosives that were to be used in each of the bombs to be planted on United States airliners. The test resulted in the death of a Japanese national on board a flight from the Philippines to Japan. Mohammed conspired with Yousef on the plot until it was uncovered on January 6, 1995. Yousef was captured February 7 of that same year.
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was secretly indicted on terrorism charges in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York in January 1996 for his alleged involvement in Operation Bojinka, and was subsequently placed on the October 10, 2001, initial list of the FBI's twenty-two Most Wanted Terrorists.


Redevelopment of the relationship with Osama bin Laden
“ If now we were living in the Revolutionary War and George Washington he being arrested through Britain. For sure he, they would consider him enemy combatant. But American they consider him as hero. ”
—Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, speaking in 2007
By the time the Operation Bojinka plot was discovered, Mohammed was already safely in Qatar, back at his job as a project engineer at the country's Ministry of Electricity and Water. He traveled in 1995 to Sudan, Yemen, Malaysia, and Brazil to visit elements of the worldwide jihadist community, although no evidence connects him to specific terrorist actions in any of those locations. On his trip to Sudan he attempted to meet with Osama bin Laden, who was at the time living there with the aid of Sudanese political leader Hassan al Turabi. After a request to arrest Mohammed came to the Qatari government from the United States in January 1996, Mohammed fled to Afghanistan, where he renewed his relationship with Abdul Rasul Sayyaf and formed a working relationship with the newly migrated bin Laden later that year. "According to KSM, this was the first time he had seen bin Laden since 1989. Although they had fought together in Afghanistan in 1987, bin Laden and KSM did not yet enjoy an especially close working relationship."
Just as Mohammed was re-establishing himself in Afghanistan, bin Laden and his colleagues were also transplanting their operations to the same country. Abu Hafs al-Masri/Mohammed Atef, bin Laden's chief of operations, arranged a meeting between bin Laden and Mohammed in Tora Bora sometime in mid-1996, in which Mohammed outlined a plan that would eventually become the quadruple hijackings of 2001. Bin Laden urged Mohammed to become a full-fledged member of Al Qaeda, but he continued to refuse such a commitment until around early 1999, after the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam convinced him that bin Laden was truly committed to attacking the United States. Mohammed wished to retain some degree of autonomy as a mujahid. His continuing relationship with Sayyaf had to be kept hidden from Al Qaeda, as full disclosure would have been problematic.
The 9/11 Commission Report notes on page 149 that Mohammed moved his family from Iran to Karachi, Pakistan in 1997. That same year, he attempted without success to join mujahideen leader Ibn al Khattab in Chechnya, another area of special interest to Mohammed. He was apparently unable to travel to Chechnya, and so he instead returned to Afghanistan, where he gradually gained stature in Al Qaeda and ultimately accepted bin Laden's invitation to move to Kandahar and join the organization as a full-fledged member (although he claims that he still refused to swear a formal oath of loyalty to bin Laden). Eventually, he became leader of Al Qaeda's media committee. He also worked on various unfulfilled plans for attacks in Israel and Southeast Asia.He was close to former Jemaah Islamiyah leader Riduan Isamuddin, better known as Hambali.
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has also been widely described as living a lavish lifestyle, even while he was on the run from the law. He traveled all over the world using false passports, and was very close to being captured by U.S. authorities on numerous occasions.
In June 2001, he phoned a cell phone held by Belgian Saber Mohammed three times — as it was believed he was acting as a messenger for Mosa Zi Zemmori and Driss Elatellah.




September 11, 2001 attacks
The first hijack plan that Mohammed presented to the leadership of al-Qaeda called for several airplanes on both east and west coasts to be hijacked and flown into targets. His plan evolved from an earlier foiled plot known as Operation Bojinka, which called for 10 or more airliners to be bombed in mid-air or hijacked for use as missiles. Bin Laden rejected some potential targets suggested by Mohammed, such as the U.S. Bank Tower in Los Angeles.
In late 1998 or early 1999, bin Laden gave approval for Mohammed to go forward with organizing the plot. A series of meetings occurred in spring of 1999, involving Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Osama bin Laden, and his military chief Mohammed Atef. Bin Laden provided leadership for the plot, along with financial support. Bin Laden was also involved in selecting people to participate in the plot, including choosing Mohamed Atta as the lead hijacker. Mohammed provided operational support, such as selecting targets and helping arrange travel for the hijackers.
After Atta was chosen as the leader of the mission, "he met with Bin Laden to discuss the targets: the World Trade Center, which represented the U.S. economy; the Pentagon, a symbol of the U.S. military; and the U.S. Capitol, the perceived source of U.S. policy in support of Israel. The White House was also on the list, as Bin Laden considered it a political symbol and wanted to attack it as well."
"Bin Laden had been pressuring KSM (Khalid Sheikh Mohammed) for months to advance the attack date. According to KSM, bin Laden had even asked that the attacks occur as early as mid-2000, after Israeli opposition party leader Ariel Sharon caused an outcry in the Middle East by visiting a sensitive and contested holy site in Jerusalem that is sacred to both Muslims and Jews. Although bin Laden recognized that Atta and the other pilots had only just arrived in the United States to begin their flight training, the al-Qaida leader wanted to punish the United States for supporting Israel. He allegedly told KSM it would be sufficient simply to down the planes and not hit specific targets. KSM withstood this pressure, arguing that the operation would not be successful unless the pilots were fully trained and the hijacking teams were larger."
In a 2002 interview with Al Jazeera journalist Yosri Fouda, Mohammed admitted his involvement, along with Ramzi Binalshibh, in the "Holy Tuesday operation". KSM, however, disputes this claim via his Personal Representative: "I never stated to the Al Jazeera reporter that I was the head of the al Qaida military committee."
In March 2007, Reuters reported that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed confessed to playing a role in the 9/11 terror attacks during a secret hearing at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. "I was responsible for the 9/11 operation from A to Z," Khalid Sheikh Mohammed said in a statement read Saturday during a Combatant Status Review Tribunal at the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay. His confession was read by a member of the U.S. military who is serving as his personal representative. He further described his actions and motivations in a composition publicly released in 2009 known as The Islamic Response to the Government’s Nine Accusations. As the title of this last piece suggests, he and his co-authors cite Islam as an influence in their actions.


Reid "shoe bombing"
According to al-Qaeda operative Mohammed Mansour Jabarah, who was captured and interrogated in Oman in 2003, Mohammed had sent al-Qaeda operative Richard Reid on a mission to bomb an airline. Jabarah also indicated that both he and Reid reported to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.


Daniel Pearl murder


According to a CNN interview with intelligence expert Rohan Gunaratna, "Daniel Pearl was going in search of the al Qaeda network that was operational in Karachi, and it was at the instruction of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed that Daniel Pearl was killed." On October 12, 2006, Time magazine reported that "KSM confessed under CIA interrogation that he personally committed the murder." On March 15, 2007, the Pentagon released a statement that Mohammed had confessed to the murder.The statement quoted Mohammed as saying, "I decapitated with my blessed right hand the head of the American Jew, Daniel Pearl, in the city of Karachi, Pakistan. For those who would like to confirm, there are pictures of me on the Internet holding his head."


Bali nightclub bombings
Mohammed was also indirectly implicated in the 2002 Bali nightclub bombings. In 2006, the Associated Press reported Col. Petrus Reinhard Golose of Indonesia's counterterrorism task force, in which he asserted "Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was personally involved in setting up the courier system . . . in which money to fund suicide bombings was carried from Thailand to Malaysia and finally to Indonesia's Sumatra island."


Capture and interrogation
"The CIA transmitted this mugshot to news organizations around the world".
On September 11, 2002, members of Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) claimed to have killed or captured Khalid Sheikh Mohammed during a raid in Karachi that resulted in Binalshibh's capture. Some people have reported that Mohammed escaped, but that his family was captured.
On March 1, 2003, the ISI reported that they had captured him in a raid in Rawalpindi, Pakistan in a joint raid with the CIA's Special Activities Division paramilitary operatives.
Following the report of the capture, some Pakistani officials say he was immediately transferred to U.S. custody without extradition proceedings, while others said he remained in Pakistani custody. The raid took place at the home of Ahmed Abdul Qudoos, who was also reportedly arrested as an al-Qaeda agent. Qudoos' family told media that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was not in the house, that Qudoos was disabled and had never been associated with al-Qaeda, and that the police conducting the raids did not ask for Mohammed. Other newspaper accounts said that former Taliban officials in Pakistan said that Mohammed was not captured and was still at large.
He told American interrogators he would not answer any questions until he was provided with a lawyer, which was refused to him. He claims to have been kept naked for more than a month during his isolation and interrogations, during which he was "questioned by an unusual number of female handlers"
According to the "unclassified summary of evidence" presented during the Combatant Status Review Tribunal Hearing in 2007 a computer hard drive seized during the capture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed contained the following:
information about the four airplanes hijacked on 11 September 2001 including code names, airline company, flight number, target, pilot name and background information, and names of the hijackers
photographs of 19 individuals identified as the 11 September 2001 hijackers
a document that listed the pilot license fees for Mohammad Atta and biographies for some of the 11 September 2001 hijackers.
images of passports and an image of Mohammad Atta.
transcripts of chat sessions belonging to at least one of the 11 September 2001 hijackers.


Three letters from Osama bin Laden
spreadsheets that describe money assistance to families of known al Qaeda members
a letter to the United Arab Emirates threatening attack if their government continued to help the United States
a document that summarized operational procedures and training requirements of an al Qaeda cell
a list of killed and wounded al Qaeda militants.
However, at the hearing Khalid Sheikh Mohammed claimed that the computer belonged not to him, but to Mustafa Ahmad al-Hawsawi, arrested together with him.


Aafia Siddiqui
He reportedly revealed, among other names, that Aafia Siddiqui was a key al-Qaeda operative in Boston. She disappeared shortly thereafter, but was captured in 2009 and in February 2010, she was convicted of assault with a deadly weapon and attempting to kill U.S. soldiers and FBI agents who were seeking to interrogate her while she was in custody.
A CIA document reveals that Jane Harman [D-CA] and Porter Goss [R-FL] of the House Intelligence Committee were briefed on July 13, 2004 by the CIA Deputy Director for Operations James Pavitt, General Council Scott Muller, and CIA Inspector General John L. Helgerson on the status of the interrogation process. By this date, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed had been subjected to 183 applications of waterboarding. The document states
"(...) the CIA was seeking renewed policy approval from the NSC Principals to continue using the enhanced interrogation techniques."
On October 12, 2004, Human Rights Watch reported that 11 suspects, including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, had "disappeared" to a semi-secret prison in Jordan, and might have been tortured there under the direction of the CIA.
Jordanian and American officials denied those allegations.
CIA Director Michael Hayden told a Senate committee on February 5, 2008, that the agency had used waterboarding on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. A 2005 U.S. Justice Department memo released in April 2009 stated that Mohammed had undergone waterboarding 183 times in March 2003.
In October 2006 Mohammed described his mistreatment and torture in detention, including the waterboarding, to a representative of International Committee of the Red Cross. Mohammed said that he had provided a lot of false information that he had supposed the interrogators wanted to hear in order to stop the mistreatment. In the 2006 interview with the Red Cross, Mohammed claimed to have been waterboarded in 5 different sessions during the first month of interrogation in his third place of detention. While the Justice Department memos were confusing in that they did not explain exactly what the numbers represented, a U.S. official with knowledge of the interrogation programs explained the 183 figure represented the number of times water was applied to the detainees face during the waterboarding sessions.
In June 2008, a New York Times article citing unnamed CIA officers claimed that Mohammed was held in a secret facility in Poland near Szymany Airport, about 100 miles north of Warsaw, where he was interrogated under waterboarding before he began to cooperate.


Report that interrogators abused his children
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Letter from Ali Khan, Majid Khan's father
Ali Khan, the father of Majid Khan, another one of the 14 "high-value detainees," released an affidavit on Monday April 16, 2006, that reported that interrogators subjected Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's children, aged six and eight years old, to abusive interrogation.
Khan's affidavit quoted another of his sons, Mohammed Khan:
"The Pakistani guards told my son that the boys were kept in a separate area upstairs, and were denied food and water by other guards. They were also mentally tortured by having ants or other creatures put on their legs to scare them and get them to say where their father was hiding."


Transfer to Guantánamo and hearing before his Combatant Status Review Tribunal
On September 6, 2006, then-American President George W. Bush confirmed, for the first time, that the CIA had held "high-value detainees" for interrogation in secret prisons around the world. He also announced that fourteen senior captives, including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, were being transferred from CIA custody, to military custody, at Guantanamo Bay detention camp and that these fourteen captives could now expect to face charges before Guantanamo military commissions.
In a September 29, 2006, speech, Bush stated "Once captured, Abu Zubaydah, Ramzi Binalshibh, and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed were taken into custody of the Central Intelligence Agency. The questioning of these and other suspected terrorists provided information that helped us protect the American people. They helped us break up a cell of Southeast Asian terrorist operatives that had been groomed for attacks inside the United States. They helped us disrupt an al Qaeda operation to develop anthrax for terrorist attacks. They helped us stop a planned strike on a U.S. Marine camp in Djibouti, and to prevent a planned attack on the U.S. Consulate in Karachi, and to foil a plot to hijack passenger planes and to fly them into Heathrow Airport and London's Canary Wharf."
In March 2007, Mohammed testified before a closed-door hearing in Guantánamo Bay. According to transcripts of the hearing released by the Pentagon, he said, "I was responsible for the 9/11 operation, from A to Z." The transcripts also show him confessing to:
Organizing the 1993 World Trade Center bombing,
The Bali nightclub bombings,
Richard Reid's attempted shoe bombing,
Planning the attacks on Heathrow Airport and Big Ben clock tower in London,
Daniel Pearl's murder in 2002,
Planned assassination attempts on Pope John Paul II, Pervez Musharraf and Bill Clinton.
"Because war, for sure, there will be victims. When I said I'm not happy that three thousand been killed in America. I feel sorry even...Killing is prohibited in all what you call the People of the Book, Jews, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. You know the Ten Commandments very well. The Ten Commandments are shared between all of us. We all are serving one God."
—Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, before his tribunal
On March 15, 2007, BBC News reported that "Transcripts of his testimony were translated from Arabic and edited by the U.S. Department of Defense to remove sensitive intelligence material before release. It appeared, from a judge's question, that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed had made allegations of torture in US custody". In the Defense Department transcript, Mohammed said his statement was not made under duress but Mohammed and human rights advocates have alleged that he was tortured. CIA officials have previously told ABC News that "Mohammed lasted the longest under waterboarding, two and a half minutes, before beginning to talk." Legal experts say this could taint all his statements. Forensic psychiatrist Michael Welner, M.D., an expert in false confessions, observed from the testimony transcript that his concerns about his family may have been far more influential in soliciting Mohammed’s cooperation than any earlier reported mistreatment.
One CIA official cautioned that "many of Mohammed's claims during interrogation were 'white noise' designed to send the U.S. on wild goose chases or to get him through the day's interrogation session". For example according to Mike Rogers, a former FBI agent and the top Republican on the terrorism panel of the House Intelligence Committee, he has admitted responsibility for the Bali nightclub bombing, but his involvement "could have been as small as arranging a safe house for travel. It could have been arranging finance." Mohammed also made the admission that he was "responsible for the 1993 World Trade Center Operation," which killed six and injured more than 1,000 when a bomb was detonated in an underground garage, Mohammed did not plan the attack, but he may have supported it. Michael Welner noted that by offering legitimate information to interrogators, Mohammed had secured the leverage to provide disinformation as well.


List of confessions
All of these plots can also be referred to as 'Second Oplan Bojinka'.
The February 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center in New York City
A failed "shoe bomber" operation
The October 2002 attack in Kuwait
The nightclub bombing in Bali, Indonesia
A plan for a "second wave" of attacks on major U.S. landmarks after the 9/11 attacks, including the Library Tower in Los Angeles, the Sears Tower in Chicago, the Plaza Bank Building in Seattle and the Empire State Building in New York
Plots to attack oil tankers and U.S. naval ships in the Straits of Hormuz, the Straits of Gibraltar and in Singapore
A plan to blow up the Panama Canal
Plans to assassinate Jimmy Carter
A plot to blow up suspension bridges in New York City
A plan to destroy the Sears Tower in Chicago with burning fuel trucks
Plans to "destroy" Heathrow Airport, Canary Wharf and Big Ben in London
A planned attack on "many" nightclubs in Thailand
A plot targeting the New York Stock Exchange and other U.S. financial targets
A plan to destroy buildings in Eilat, Israel
Plans to destroy U.S. embassies in Indonesia, Australia and Japan in 2002.
Plots to destroy Israeli embassies in India, Azerbaijan, the Philippines and Australia
Surveying and financing an attack on an Israeli El-Al flight from Bangkok
Sending several "mujahideen" into Israel to survey "strategic targets" with the intention of attacking them
The November 2002 suicide bombing of a hotel in Mombasa, Kenya
The failed attempt to shoot down an Israeli passenger jet leaving Mombasa airport in Kenya
Plans to attack U.S. targets in South Korea
Providing financial support for a plan to attack U.S., British and Jewish targets in Turkey
Surveillance of U.S. nuclear power plants in order to attack them
A plot to attack NATO's headquarters in Europe
Planning and surveillance in a 1995 plan (the "Bojinka Operation") to bomb 12 American passenger jets
The planned assassination attempt against then-U.S. President Bill Clinton during a mid-1990s trip to the Philippines.
"Shared responsibility" for a plot to kill Pope John Paul II
Plans to assassinate Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf
An attempt to attack a U.S. oil company in Sumatra, Indonesia, "owned by the Jewish former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger"
The beheading of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl
Source: BBC


Documents associated with KSM used to implicate other suspects
A number of Guantanamo captives faced allegations that their names were found on suspicious lists and other documents associated with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.


Confession used in Sheikh Omar's defense
On March 19, 2007, Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh's lawyers cited Mohammed's confession in defense of their client.
Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, also known as Sheikh Omar, was sentenced to death in a Pakistani court for the murder of Daniel Pearl. Omar's lawyers recently announced that they planned to use Mohammed's confession in an appeal. They had always acknowledged that Omar played a role in Pearl's murder, but argue that Mohammed was the actual murderer.
The Department of Defense announced on August 9, 2007 that all fourteen of the "high-value detainees" who had been transferred to Guantanamo from the CIA's black sites, had been officially classified as "enemy combatants". Although judges Peter Brownback and Keith J. Allred had ruled two months earlier that only "illegal enemy combatants" could face military commissions, the Department of Defense waived the qualifier and said that all fourteen men could now face charges before Guantanamo military commissions.


Trial for 9/11
On February 11, 2008, the United States Department of Defense charged Mohammed as well as Ramzi Binalshibh, Mustafa Ahmad al-Hawsawi, Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali and Walid Bin Attash for the September 11, 2001 attacks under the military commission system, as established under the Military Commissions Act of 2006. They have reportedly been charged with the murder of almost 3000 people, terrorism and providing material support for terrorism and plane hijacking; as well as attacking civilian objects, intentionally causing serious bodily injury and destruction of property in violation of the law of war. The charges against them list 169 overt acts allegedly committed by the defendants in furtherance of the September 11 events."
The charges include 2,973 individual counts of murder — one for each person killed in the 9/11 attacks.
The U.S. government is seeking the death penalty, which would require the unanimous agreement of the commission judges.
Human rights groups, including Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and the Center for Constitutional Rights, and U.S. military defense lawyers have criticised the military commissions for lacking necessary rights for a fair trial. Critics generally argue for a trial either in a federal district court as a common criminal suspect, or by court-martial as a prisoner under the Geneva Conventions which prohibit civilian trials for prisoners of war. Mohammed could face the death penalty under any of these systems.
The Pentagon insisted that Mohammed and the other defendant would receive a fair trial, with rights "virtually identical" to U.S. military service personnel. However, there are some differences between U.S. courts-martial and military commissions.
The U.S. Department of Defense has built a $12 million "Expeditionary Legal Complex" in Guantánamo with a snoop-proof courtroom capable of trying six alleged co-conspirators before one judge and jury. Media and other observers are sequestered in a soundproofed room behind thick glass, at the rear. The judge at the front and a court security officer have mute buttons to silence the feed to the observers' booth—if they suspect someone in court could spill classified information.
The trial, presided over by judge Ralph Kohlmann, began on June 5, 2008, with the arraignment. About thirty-five journalists watched on closed-circuit TV in a press room inside a converted hangar, while two dozen others watched through a window from a room adjacent to the courtroom.
Mohammed insisted he would not be represented by any attorneys. The other detainees quickly followed suit and said they too wanted to represent themselves. One of the civilian attorneys Mohammed spurned, David Nevin, later told the Associated Press that he would attempt to meet with Mohammed to "hear him out and see if we can give him information that is helpful."
Mohammed was careful not to interrupt Kohlmann. He lost his composure only after the Marine colonel ordered several defense attorneys to keep quiet "It's an inquisition. It's not a trial," Mohammed said in broken English, his voice rising. "After torturing they transfer us to inquisition-land in Guantanamo."
He explained he believes only in religious Sharia law and railed against U.S. President George W. Bush for waging a "crusade war." When judge warned Mohammed that he faces execution if convicted of organizing the attacks on America, Mohammed said he welcomes the death penalty. "Yes, this is what I wish, to be a martyr for a long time," Mohammed declared. "I will, God willing, have this, by you."
A sound feed to journalists from the courtroom was turned off twice.
The sound was also turned off when another defendant discussed early days of his imprisonment. Judge Ralph Kohlmann said that in both cases sound was turned off because classified information was discussed.
On September 23, 2008, in the voir dire process, Mohammed questioned the judge on his potential bias at trial. "Glaring and poking an occasional finger in the air," Mohammed told Kohlmann, "The government considers all of us fanatical extremists," and asked, "How can you, as an officer of the U.S. Marine Corps, stand over me in judgment?" Insisting that he was attempting to work out if Kohlmann was a religious extremist, he continued: "[President] Bush said this is a crusader war and Osama bin Laden said this is a holy war against the crusades. If you were part of Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson’s group, then you would not be impartial."
For his part, Kohlmann attempted to maintain his dignity, explaining that he was currently unaffiliated with a church "because I’ve moved so often." He added that he had previously worshipped at "various Lutheran churches and Episcopal churches."
Mohammed then proceeded to ask Kohlmann about his views on torture. As part of the background materials supplied to him — or made available to the civilian lawyers who are voluntarily assisting him in his defense — he referred to an ethics seminar that Kohlmann had conducted at his daughter’s high school in 2005, in which the students had been asked to consider their responses to a “Ticking Time Bomb” scenario. Based on a fictional proposition that a bomb is about to go off, and an unwilling captive knows its location but is unwilling to disclose the information, the scenario is widely used by proponents of “enhanced interrogation techniques” to justify the use of torture.
Kohlmann explained that he encouraged the debate as part of "a complex question that might be dealt with differently if someone were specifically trying to save the nation or just looking at it from an ethical sense or just looking at it from a legal sense," and dismissed a combative question from Mohammed — "It seems that you are supportive of the use of torture for national security?" — by stating, "I have no idea where that would come from."
On October 12, 2008, Kohlmann ruled that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and his four co-charged, should be provided with laptops, so they can work on their defenses.
In November 2009, according to an Administration official, Mohammed was being transferred from Guantanamo Bay to New York to face a Federal Trial. Four other detainees will be facing trial in front of civilian federal court, as well.
On January 22, 2010, The Pentagon officially dropped military charges against Mohammed and the four other alleged conspirators, clearing the path for likely transfer from Guantanamo to the United States to face charges in a civilian federal court.


Kohlmann unexpectedly replaced
Kohlmann was scheduled to retire in 2009. In November 2008, he was unexpectedly replaced by Stephen Henley.


Possible guilty plea
On December 8, 2008, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his four co-defendants told the judge that they wished to confess and plead guilty to all charges. The plea will be delayed until mental competency hearings for Mustafa Ahmad al-Hawsawi and Ramzi Binalshibh can be held; Mohammed said, "We want everyone to plead together." Spencer Ackerman, writing in the Washington Independent, reported that Presiding Officer Stephen Henley had to consider whether he was authorized to accept guilty pleas.


Transfer of the case to a civilian court
On 13 November 2009 US Attorney General Eric Holder announced that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Ramzi Bin al-Shibh, Walid bin Attash, Ali Abdul Aziz Ali and Mustafa Ahmed al-Hawsawi will all be transferred to the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York for trial. He also expressed confidence that an impartial jury would be found "to ensure a fair trial in New York."
On 21 January 2010 all charges have been withdrawn in the military commissions against the five suspects in the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks being held at Guantanamo Bay. The charges were dropped "without prejudice" - a procedural move that allows federal officials to transfer the men to trial in a civilian court and also leaves the door open, if necessary, to bring charges again in military commissions.
In February 2010 Fox News reported that the legal counsel of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and the legal counsel of several other captives, was halted without warning. The attorneys had made the trip to Guantanamo in the usual manner—a trip that requires advising authorities of the purpose of their trip. However, upon their arrival in Guantanamo, they were informed they were no longer allowed to see their clients. They were told that letters to their clients, telling them that they had travelled to Cuba, to see them, could not be delivered, as they were no longer authorized to write to their clients. Camp authorities told them that since the charges against their clients had been dropped, while the Department of Justice figured out where to charge them, they no longer needed legal counsel. Camp authorities told them that, henceforward, all access to the captives had to be approved by Jay Johnson, the Department of Defense's General Counsel. Fox reported that during earlier periods when the charges had been dropped the captives had still been allowed to see their attorneys. Fox claimed that questions they asked camp authorities lead to the captives' access to their attorneys being restored.
On 1 February 2010 White House spokesman Robert Gibbs told CNN that "Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is going to meet justice and he's going to meet his maker. He will be brought to justice and he's likely to be executed for the heinous crimes he committed". The White House spokesperson's statement has been criticized as violating the principle of the presumption of innocence and has been characterized as egregious by an attorney of Guantanamo Bay detainees.


On September 9, 2009, images of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Ammar al Baluchi were widely republished Camp authorities have strict controls over the capture and release of images of the Guantanamo captives. Journalists and VIPs visiting Guantanamo are not allowed to take any pictures that show the captives' faces. "High value" captives, like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, are only seen by journalists when they are in the court room, where cameras are not allowed. However, on September 9, 2009 independent counter-terrorism researchers found new images of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and his nephew Ammar al Baluchi on "jihadist websites". According to Carol Rosenberg, writing in the Miami Herald: "The pictures were taken in July, said International Committee of the Red Cross spokesman Bernard Barrett, under an agreement with prison camp staff that lets Red Cross delegates photograph detainees and send photos to family members."



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Man, i really gotta make some of this movies with donate links, i bet there are ppl stupid enough to actually donate!

PSMITHjl

What would be the point of the government demo'ing this and covering it up? Although it is highly unlikely that a building would crumble so neatly, it is in fact possible. How were the charges placed without anyone knowing it? To pull off this "conspiracy" the focus needed to be as tight as possible. With the very convincing terrorist assault on the twin towers, this would be superfluous. I think that this was simply a fluke, but I could be wrong. GWB & Co. were crooks, not evil geniuses!
arcanacelestia

Below is a link to an Italian Documentary with English Subtitles. The whole world knows WTC 7 was collapsed by pre-planned controlled demolition. Even if only one part of the 911 story is a lie then the whole 911 story is a lie. The preplanned Demolition of WTC 7 is the most obvious lie which shows 911 was a Zionist attack falsely blamed on Arabs so the US could occupy Iraq’s oil fields. Iran is next on the list. The US is controlled by Renegade Psychopaths called Zionists.

/watch?v=58h0LjdMry0

LOLCATS3111
@arcanacelestia ~ I guess the Zionists were not smart enough to make any of the hijackers Iraqi ????????

arcanacelestia
@LOLCATS3111 Zionist Israelis were not smart enough to make any of the hijackers Iraqi. Zionist Israelis were also not smart enough to stop three Mossad Agents (dancing Israelis) from being arrested by the NYPD because they dressed up as Palestinians setting up cameras in the street in preparation to film 911, and then they went on Israeli TV and admitted they were in New York to film the event. Today Israelis like LOLCATS311 are on YT trying to clean up the mess they made of 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌

blackcrow6667
This obviously, without doubt, is controlled demolition. Anyone who believes otherwise isn't very bright and it's amazing to me that this passes as kook conspiracy to the average person.

LOLCATS3111
@blackcrow6667 ~ and your conclusions come from your MANY years in the controlled demolition field or reading conspiracy websites ??????

blackcrow6667
@LOLCATS3111 Maybe, the building slipped on a banana peel...

LOLCATS3111

@blackcrow6667 ~ or maybe 7 hours of fire caused a structural failure

blackcrow6667

@LOLCATS3111 Yes, a structural failure evenly distributed and perfectly timed at all crucial points? I'd stick with the banana peel theory. :)

arcanacelestia
@LOLCATS3111 or maybe LOLCATS3111 is an Israeli prentending to be an American for the purpose of Zionist on-line disinformation to distract attention from the fact that Israelis are terrified that Americas might realise that 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌

arcanacelestia

@LOLCATS3111 Below is a link to a Documentary with English Subtitles Proof of Thermite at WTC. The whole world knows WTC 7 was pre-planned demolition. Even if only one part of the 911 story is a lie then the whole 911 story is a lie. The Controlled Demolition of WTC 7 is the most obvious lie which shows 911 was a Zionist attack falsely blamed on Arabs so the US could occupy Iraq’s oil fields. Iran is next on the list. The US is controlled by Renegade Zionist Psychopaths.

/watch?v=m3Oig4IbBNg

jerseygrl5

@LOLCATS3111 Google the CCTV fire in Beijing China. A 44 story building that burned out of control for more than 24 hours but the steel frame still stands. This just happened last year.

arcanacelestia

@jerseygrl5 Watch how bad this fire is yet steel buildings are never brought down by fire alone.

/watch?v=tDMW1_AslYQ

And also

/watch?v=A-c-6qkbxd0

Witness to many explosions inside Building 7 BEFORE it collapsed.

/watch?v=PbbZE7c3a8Q

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LOLCATS3111

@arcanacelestia ~ so do have you come up with an answer as to WHY NO 130db detonations were picked up by ANY vidoe camera or seismograph just prior to the collapse of all three buildings ???

have you come up with an answer as to why NO PHYSICAL EVIDNECE of a cd like blasting caps, det cord, or copper connetcors were EVER found in the debri pile ???

have you come up with an answer as to why NO BLOWN APART STEEL BEAMS were ever found in the debri pile ???

TheDanesaly

@LOLCATS3111 Ye know why there was none of that stuff because it wasnt a cd, it was an underground nuclear explosion. think its a bit crazy check out dimitri khalezovs videos on vimeo.com and it will start to make some sense.

arcanacelestia

@LOLCATS3111 I will repeat my answers to those questions as soon as LOLCATS replies to my rejection of his false accusation that being anti-Semitic goes hand in hand with believing 911 truth.

The link below shows a Former Israeli Government Minister declaring on American Television that calling people ANTI-SEMITIC is a trick which Israelis use to conceal and suppress criticism of the Israeli government's abuse of Palestinians. And LOLCATS answer is ...?

watch?v=uW3a1bw5XlE

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LOLCATS3111

@jerseygrl5 ~ The Beijing fire had OVER 1,000 fire fighters battling it, the building was a concrete reinforced steel frame with a concrete core and we all know that concrete stands up to fire much better then steel does

illuminumnuts

If you observe the Establishment TWOOF-TARDS for a while, then you'll see that they make these dumb posts. They'll soon be rounded up with their fellow 'WMD in Iraq' and 'Saddam Hussein was linked to Al Qaeda' loons and packed off to the sanitarium. They'll love it in there though, as they'll get fed loads of drugs and be able to make up more wacky stories to their hearts content. They can then hook up with all the other fringe loonies and will surely make a great team. The 'Sanitarium Shills'

edicccc

I never believed that a bunch of Arabs did this. Clearly it was all planned. Why is it so hard to prove this? And I do not agree with blaming Jews or any other religion. This is planned by a group of men who think they know what is best for the world and believe they used this unbelievable crime to achieve their goals. Many people must have known about this. Can't believe no one is talking.


@edicccc What's so hard about believing the Al Qaeda did it? Do you think they don't exist? Do you think they didn't attack the USS Cole or attack Cobart Towers in Saudi Arabia or attack the US embassies in Nairobi and Dar Es Salaam?

arcanacelestia
@edicccc Thank you for your balanced comment, to which will only add that the group of men who believe they know what is best for the world are called Zionists. Zionists are NOT true Jews but they have subverted and manipulated both American politics and Israeli politics. Jews are NOT the problem. Zionists are the problem because they are international criminals who use Israel as their platform for malign political international influence. See the link below

jewsagainstzionism(.)com

arcanacelestia

@edicccc At the link jewsagainstzionism(.)com you should read the sections entitled “Zionism”, “The Holocaust” and “Anti-Semitism”, and you will be shocked to discover that not only was 911 an inside job but the Holocaust was also an inside job by Zionists against Jews. I know this sound too difficult to believe but Jews Against Zionism will confirm that it’s TRUE. Zionists are Psychopaths who make Israel the most dangerous place in the world for Jews under the fake banner of Jewish Victimhood

LOLCATS3111

@arcanacelestia ~ why is it being an anti-Semetic ASSHOLE goes hand in hand with being a TWOOF-TARD !?!?!??!?!

arcanacelestia
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PoetryHound
4 hours ago
@arcanacelestia "the Holocaust was also an inside job by Zionists"

So arcan turns out to be a psychopath. What a shock.

arcanacelestia
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@PoetryHound "the Holocaust was also an inside job by Zionists", is a quote from the Jewish Website “jewsagainstzionism(.)com” section “The Holocaust”. Section “Zionism” distinguishes between true Torah Jews and Zionist Talmudic Jews who are renegade Psychopaths that have subverted and manipulated American and Israeli politics. Zionists made Germany a genocidal danger to Jews and today Zionist genocidal abuse of Palestinians makes Israel the most dangerous place in the world for Jews. 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌

stepleechase

Simple as this, US governament just demolished the buildings, thats not a building falling by it self, not that and not twin towers, thats detonations. Just doesn't see who don't want to see. PERIOD

amagee590

-- Lest we forget --

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kreplach2

@amagee590 -Lest we forget-

Andrew Krepiach Magee is not only an impersonator in the YT world but hes has a rap sheet in the real world. Ive been told hes a noted paedophile by many here. This would explain why hes accused so many with sympathies for Israel . its psychological projection.My best guess is thats hes bitter about being under house arrest in Sydney.

amagee590

No, liar-kreplach, we have been through this before. I am of course NOT a "paedophile" nor is there the slightest evidence to suggest I am. Neither, liar-kreplach, is there the slightest evidence I am under "house-arrest". I am an decent law-abiding citizen with a clean record. YOU, on the other hand, can quite righthly be considered a CRIMINAL, due to the NUMEROUS offences of CRIMINAL defamation you have committed.

Any other issues about which you'd like to blather truthlessly, liar-kreplach?

PoetryHound

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arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound Israelis are soooo desperate to give the false impression that only a fading minority of Americans believe 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌. We the American People know Israel is guilty and the more these on-line Israelis deny the truth of their guilt, the more we Americans know 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌

kreplach2

@arcanacelestia The more you promote the pure speculation that somehow Jews were involved in 911 the less the American people will believe 911 truthers, My guess is THATS EXACTLY what you want.

amagee59
Not "speculation", liar-kreplach. Logical deduction. And of course no-one is suggesting ALL Jews were involved or had foreknowledge of 9/11 - far from it, just a relatively small number of zionist Jews who happen to be inclined towards extreme murderous criminality. Now YOU of course are a rabidly zionist/Jewish person who has committed numerous criminal acts. Perhaps you are not as stupid as you make out, eh? Maybe you know more than you are letting on. Hmmm?

arcanacelestia

@kreplach2 uses the Star of Remphan as his symbol so kreplach2 has invested his whole life and soul into deceiving and exploiting the Goyim. For this reason we Goyim must express our gratitude to kreplach2 and his diabolical crew of fellow Luciferians, for the effort they have made towards bring the Goyim to understand the true nature of Evil. I salute !

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What the fudge

shanman1019

The US should stop invading countries and these things wouldnt happen

arcanacelestia

@shanman1019 Correct. America has not been in a just war since the end of WWII. Millions of innocent people have died because of deviant American militarism and today America and Israel export terrorism to the Islamic world. Soviet Leaders like Stalin are no worse than American and Israeli leaders and the US will economically collapse and break up exactly as the soviet Union broke up, and Israel abuse of Palestians will make Israel the most dangerouse place in the world for Jews.

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sparkymmilarky

Aids

arcanacelestia

@BlackmoonUK After 9 years you now realise why the US government report said they don't know why WTC7 collapsed, because it was not hit by any aircraft yet it fell into it's own footprint AT FREE FALL SPEED, which is only achievable with pre-wired demolition shearing all 24 vertical core columns AT EVERY ONE OF THE 47 FLOORS . If you only sheared the columns at the bottom then the building would only fall one floor before asymmetrically buckling and then toppling over like a felled tree.

star3ize

@arcanacelestia yaa

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia

"It fell into it's own footprint"

Wrong. It damaged buildings OUTSIDE of its footprint.

"AT FREE FALL SPEED"

Wong. Only 2.25 seconds were at free fall.

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound As shown in the video link below, NIST has admitted that WTC7 fell at freefall speed.

/watch?v=mSyqfM-Rgy0

and as shown the link below, that WTC 7 fell at free fall speed is no longer controversial

/watch?v=rVCDpL4Ax7I

On-line disinformation comments are from Israelis pretending to be Americans because Israelis are terrified that Americans might realise 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌This video has had over a million views and that’s why the Israelis are so busy on this thread.

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PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia NIST admits that WTC 7 only fell at free fall for 2.25 seconds. Overall, the collapse was 40% slower than free fall. NIST also admits there's no evidence of any explosives.

As for WTC 7 falling in its footprint, you're wrong. It didn't.

You're also wrong that explosives at WTC 7 wouldn't have been detected by seismographs. No seismologist says that.

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound Won-Younger Kim says the 1993 bomb which blew up the FBI building did not show on the nearby seismograph instruments because the explosion was above ground and therefore not coupled to the earth. Won says that only the collapse of the WTC would vibrate the ground. I ask you to name the Seismologists who say the WTC demolition explosions would give seismic recordings but you only cite something you falsely claim was said by Won but you can't find the article because it does not exist

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia The FBI building is not WTC 7. Which seismologist says any explosions at WTC 7 would not have been detected by seismic instruments? Kim doesn't say that. Who does? BTW, your fellow kooks claim detonation charges WERE found in the seismic record from the twin towers. So you guys can't even agree.

If you bothered to look, you'd see that Firehouse doesn't keep all its archives on line. Go find the article somewhere else. I give sources. You're the one that makes baseless claims

arcanacelestia
@PoetryHound Fire House Magazine DO KEEP all there archives on-line and Won is not there. You say you give sources so you should scan the Fire House article quoting Won and post the scanned image to an internet host site then post the link here where we can all see it. If you don’t do this then we know you are an Israel who specialises in on-line 911 disinfromation.

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PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia "Fire House Magazine DO KEEP all these archives on-line"

No they don't. They only leave selective articles and notices from old issues.

illuminumnuts

@PoetryHound SCATHOUND, I already told you once to stop using multiple accounts. You looking to have your bottom badly spanked? You want to ready your rump for future incidents where you pick up the soap during your 2 years sentence? Everyone can see it and it's likely that you have other accounts too. You stick out like a sore thumb. All Youtubers reading this comment. How can you trust a single word that this guy says? You can't! If he had any faith in what he said he'd say it on one account!

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound The link firehouse(.)com/magazine/archi ves shows that Fire House Magazine offer on-line searching of 12 issues per year 1996 to 2010. It is absurd to say that Fire House Magazine would not select and archive an article investigating seismic measurements of a disaster which killed over 300 Firefighters. The quote you attribute to Won-Young Kim is a ridiculous statement which no scientifically trained person would make. You can’t cite the source because you made it up.

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arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound claims that Won-Young Kim said in Fire House Magazine, "Seismic data from multiple sources indicates that, as with the Twin Towers, the collapse of WTC 7 began slowly, completely unlike an explosive demolition but consistent with internal failures leading to global collapse". The quote PoetryHound attributes to Won Young Kim only appears on three Israel "debunking" websites and they don’t attribute those words to Won Young Kim or any other Seismologist.

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arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound The quote from Won-Young Kim which @LOLCATS3111 and PoetryHound claim to have seen is nonsense which Won-Young Kim would never have said because the time frame only covers 20 seconds and ALL demolitions stagger explosives over 10 to 15 seconds. The quote allegedly from Won assumes demolition is always done in one big BANG, so Won would never have said this and the quote is dumb Israeli debunking disinformation which PoetryHound cannot produce because it doesn't exist.

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PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia How ironic that you whine about not finding my source when you fail to present any sources to back up your unsubstantiated assertions.

You claim explosions at WTC 7 wouldn't have registered on seismically, yet can cite no one who agrees with this.

You claim there's "no shortage" of demo experts who say explosives brought down the twin towers, yet can't cite any.

You claim there was 3 ft of crawl space under each floor of the WTC buildings, yet can point to nothing to verify it.

Drowningtrout
@PoetryHound buildingwhat org

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia "ALL demolitions stagger explosives over 10 to 15 seconds."

ALL of them? Says who?

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound Demolition charges are staggered is because simutaneous detonation of hundreds of charges would create a big blast which could cause unpredictable disturbance of the symetery needed for controlled demolition. PoetryHound repeatedly asks "Says Who?" because PoetryHound foolishly argues on a technical subject which he knows nothing about and PoetryHound foolishly tries but fails to practince disinformation against people who know more than he does. PoetryHound's only skill is typing.

arcanacelesti

@PoetryHound I don't know any kooks other than the Mossad Agents who claim they are the best in the world and the IDF who also claim they are the best in the world, yet these Israeli kooks always contradict themselves by claiming they live on the edge of annihilation. How can Israelis be any good if they can do no better than create immanent annihilation for themselves ? Israelis are the kooks and that's why they spend so much time on YouTube cleaning-up the mess they made of 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound WTC fell into it's own foot print, meaning it fell symetrically which is only achievable with controlled demolition. The fact that it spread out when the whole building was flattened does NOT mean that the building did not fall into it's own foot print, IT DID.

NIST has admitted that WTC7 fell at freefall speed, the early collapse of the penthouse does not start the timer. The timing only starts when the top floor starts to descend.

/watch?v=mSyqfM-Rgy0

/watch?v=rVCDpL4Ax7I

arcanacelestia
22 hours ago
@LOLCATS3111 has a totally unscientific mind and that's why he calls people a "dufus" if they disagree with his absurd statement that demolition explosives will not break steel columns unless they have a loudness of 130db measured right next to the explosion. An ordinary hi-fi loudspeaker can reach 130db if you measure right next to it so LOLCATS3111 has zero technical knowledge and he has no comprehension of all the other foolish comments he makes.

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spcantwell

@arcanacelestia

casue you NEVER use insults when talking on here... oh thats right you DO

its not nearly as absurd as the untruther claim that the fires couldnt have affected the steel.

arcanacelestia
21 hours ago
@spcantwell Did I ever say I don't use insults? and if I did use an insult, please quote me? Is the fact that I discuss the topic of the video which is at the top of this thread making spcantwell and his Israeli disinformation colleagues feel a little constrained in their internet disinformation work ?

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arcanacelestia

@spcantwell says "its not nearly as absurd as the untruther claim that the fires couldnt have been hot enough to melt the steel" but spcantwell doesn't say WHAT is not absurd? Another meaningless statement from spcantwell or is spcantwell referring to the absurd way he and his Israeli debunking colleagues say the fire DID soften the steel but then contradict themselves by DENYING the video evidence showing that red hot steel was excavated from ground zero 6 weeks after 911?

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arcanacelestia

@LOLCATS3111 WON-YOUNG KIM Senior Research Scientist, Columbia University 61 Route 9W, Palisades, New York 10964, Quoting “Won-Young Kim, told AFP that the Palisades seismographs register daily underground explosions from a quarry 20 miles away caused by 80,000 lbs of ammonium nitrate generating readings of magnitude 1 to 2. The 1993 truck-bomb at the WTC did not register on the seismographs because it was "not coupled" to the ground.”

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arcanacelest
@LOLCATS3111 PoetryHound tried to claim that Won-Young Kim spoke about WTC 7 saying, ‘’Seismic data from multiple sources indicates that, as with the Twin Towers, the collapse of WTC 7 began slowly, completely unlike an explosive demolition but consistent with internal failures leading to global collapse". However when challenged Rain Man PoetryHound gave no evidence Won-Young Kim ever said this so PoetryHound is lying AGAIN.

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LOLCATS3111

@arcanacelestia ~ I have read that statement from Kim, I've also read the statements from Arthur Lerner Lem from LD and Brent Blanchard from PROTEC who have said there is NO SEISMIC evidence that explosives brought down the WTC ot WTC 7

arcanacelestia

@LOLCATS3111 says he has seen Won-Young Kim saying "Seismic data from multiple sources indicates that, as with the Twin Towers, the collapse of WTC 7 began slowly, completely unlike an explosive demolition but consistent with internal failures leading to global collapse". These words are only in three "debunking" websites without attribution to Kim or any other Seismologist, neither is it in Fire House Magazine Archives, but both LOLCATS and PoetryHound have "seen" it, in their dreams perhaps?

arcanacelestia

@LOLCATS3111 The quote PoetryHound attributes to Won Young Kim only appears on three dumb "debunking" websites and they don’t attribute those words to Won Young Kim or any other Seismologist. The quote is obviously rubbish because the time frame on their graph only covers 20 seconds and ALL controlled demolitions stagger the explosives over 15 to 20 seconds. The quote assumes that controlled demolition is always done in one big BANG, debunking bullshit believed by PoetryHound and LOLCATS.

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia Sorry if you can't access the Firehouse terrorism article with Kim's comment. Just because you can't google it doesn't mean it's not there. On the other hand, you lied when you said any explosives in WTC 7 would not register in seismic instruments. No seismologist, not even Kim, says that. That makes you a liar.

You also lied about there being "no shortage" of demo experts who say explosives brought down the twin towers. You can't point to even one.

PoetryHound

How about this guy? another liar?

"Just when you thought it was over, you're walking by this building and you're hearing this building creak and fully involved in flames. It's like, is it coming down next? Sure enough, about a half an hour later it came down.” – FDNY Lieutenant James McGlynn

PoetryHound

Is this guy a liar?

“We were concerned about additional collapse, not only of the Marriott, because there was a good portion of the Marriott still standing, but also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Ctr would collapse…Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors.” –FDNY Dep. Chief Peter Hayden

PoetryHound

Hey arcanac, is this guy lying?

“The major concern at that time at that particular location was number Seven, building number seven, which had taken a big hit from the north tower. When it fell, it ripped steel out from between the third and sixth floors across the facade on Vesey Street. We were concerned that the fires on several floors and the missing steel would result in the building collapsing.” FDNY Chief Frank Fellini

BlackmoonUK

Firefighter David F Tomlinson "I'm thinking of taking the missus bowling at the weekend"

Fire chief Ronald Turnip "Shit you gotta be kiddin' me! You ain't gonna find a ball with holes big enough for that fat bitch to get her pinkies in!"

Firefighter Charles "Boozer" McGuinnes "Hahahahaha aaaaaaa!!"

Check with Google to verify these quotes. They are as real as the conspiracy theorists believe.

xxRenegadeZxx

Thats the glass shattering and the concrete of the building being pulverised by the strain of the building collapsing due to fire damage, nothing sinister.

BlackmoonUK

@xxRenegadeZxx - Indeed. Anyway, to bring a building of that size down, the charges would have to be horizontally placed at the bottom of the tower, not vertically 20 stories up!

arcanacelestia

@BlackmoonUK To bring down a 47 floor building into it's own foot print you must use explosives to shear the 24 core vertical columns AT EVERY ONE OF THE 47 FLOORS. If you only sheared the columns at the bottom then the building would only fall one floor before toppling over like a felled tree. BlackmoonUK is another YouTube "armchair expert" pretending to know things he knows fuck all about.

marcioalmada

it's a new order in the world

PoetryHound

Still no evidence of any detonation charges at WTC 7.

Demo expert Brent Blanchard of Protec: "Several demolition teams had reached Ground Zero by 3:00 pm on 9/11, and these individuals witnessed the collapse of WTC 7 from within a few hundred feet of the event."

"We have spoken with several who possess extensive experience in explosive demolition, and all reported seeing or hearing nothing to indicate an explosive detonation precipitating the collapse. "

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound Brent Blanchard's exagerrated credentials and the absense of evidence to support his assertions are comprehensively "debunked" at this link.

911research (.) wtc7 (.) net/reviews/blanchard/index. h tea em el

You still havn't replied to me about this link.

/watch?v=ECrssqc-1oo#t=1m35s

and this one

/watch?v=ln_WiAxiIbg

Witness to many explosions inside Building 7

/watch?v=PbbZE7c3a8Q

PoetryHound are you unemployed because you're autistic?

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia An information technology specialist trying to debunk a demo expert? Hahahaha. That's rich. Besides, in the quote I provided, Blanchard was talking about all the other demo personnel that were on site. None of them witnessed any indication of any detonation charges just before WTC 7's collapse. No firefighters saw or heard any either. In fact, they said that, unlike in a CD, the building was unstable and would collapse. Are the FDNY part of the "plot?"

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound Commissioner Stephen Gregory along with a Lieutenant Evangelista from Ladder 146 say they both saw multiple flashes coming from the lower level of the WTC 2 right before it collapsed and mentions the flashes they saw are like what you'd see when they 'blow up a building.' (NY Times)

What does @PoetryHound say about this video, does this Rain Man called poetryhound think he knows better than the witnesses speaking in this video link below?

/watch?v=ECrssqc-1oo#t=1m35s

LOLCATS3111

@arcanacelestia ~ so why is it Commissioner Stephen Gregory and Lieutenant Evangelista from Ladder 146 are NOT TWOOF-TARDS !?!?!?!?!!?

arcanacelestia

@LOLCATS3111 Commissioner Stephen Gregory along with a Lieutenant Evangelista from Ladder 146 say they both saw multiple flashes coming from the lower level of the WTC 2 right before it collapsed and mentions the flashes they saw are like what you'd see when they 'blow up a building.' (NY Times)

LOLCATS3111 should not pretend to know what Gregory and Evangelista really think.

What does LOLCATS3111 say about the witnesses speaking in this video link below?

/watch?v=ECrssqc-1oo#t=1m35s

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia Neither Gregory nor Evangelista say they think explosives brought down the towers. They don't say they think they literally saw demo flashes. They said the flashes were LIKE what you'd see when they blow the building. Lot's of people said it was LIKE a bomb or AS IF it were a detonation. Learn to comprehend English.

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia If you're going to keep referring to Jennings, who supposedly felt an explosion at around 10:30am, then you need to explain how an explosion in the morning brings down a skyscraper 7 hours later.

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound Google any of the quotes below to verify sources.

Captain Chris Boyle says 'they' said WTC 7 is coming down. (Firehouse Magazine)

Battalion Chief John Norman says 'they’re telling us' that WTC 7 is going to fall down. (Firehouse Magazine)

Battalion Chief John Norman says 'they’re telling us' that WTC 7 is going to fall down. (Firehouse Magazine)

Who were ‘they’ and how did they know WTC would collapse when the governments later report doesn't know wy WTC7 collapsed?

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia So now you're claiming the FDNY didn't really determine WTC 7 was unstable and they just said so because some nameless person told them? LOL You're too much. So now the FDNY are part of the plot. LMAO

Hey, where are all those demo experts who supposedly said explosives brought down the twin towers? You lied about that too.

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound Google to verify quotes

Firefighter Lt William Ryan says he and his crew were told WTC 7 was going to collapse 'around 3 pm' and fell back until it came down. (NY Times)

A Ground Zero rescuers tells people they are walking away from the WTC 7 because it's about to 'blow up'. (CNN video @2:25)

Who were these people who told First Responders that WTC7 was going to collapse blowup and how did they know when the governments later report says they don’t know why WTC 7 collapsed?

LOLCATS3111

@arcanacelestia ~ YOPU HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHO MADE THE CALL ON WTC 7

Early on the afternoon of September 11th 2001, following the collapse of WTC 1 & 2, I feared a collapse of WTC 7 as did many on my staff.

For these reasons I made the decision as ranking fire officer to clear a collapse zone surrounding the building and to stop all activity within that zone. Approximately three hours after that order was given, WTC 7 collapsed - Dan Nigro Chief of Department - FDNY

arcanacelestia

@LOLCATS3111 Chief Nigro stated he evacuated the firemen WITHOUT informing the owner, the mayor or anyone else, but the video at the link below shows Larry Silverstein evading questions from a hostile audience who don't believe his lie that he can’t remember the name of the FIRE CHIEF who said he was going to “pull” WTC7 BEFORE it collapsed. /watch?v=EtPC0W4HII8

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LOLCATS3111

@arcanacelestia ~ hundreds of Fire Chiefs at the WTC on 9/11

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound shows no sign that he has ever worked in construction or building maintenance or any other trade or profession but this does not stop PoetryHound demanding to be accepted as someone who has nothing to learn from anyone else. PoetryHound could have simply searched Google Images for “Raised Floor” but instead I’ll have to try and post some links here. Talking to PoetryHound is like slowly spoon feeding an autistic child.

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PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia "shows no sign that he has ever worked . . .blah blah blah"

And THAT is not substantiation either. Since you have repeatedly failed to point to anyone or anything that substantiates your claim about the supposed 3-foot crawl space at the WTC, then we can only conclude that you made it up.

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound repeatedly asks the same questions and he repeatedly gets the same answers, but he keeps on ignoring the answers and asking the same questions and then saying “Run Run Run”. PoetryHound is locked into ridged Autistic thought patterns in which the whole world revolves around his need to believe he is right and that he has nothing to learn from anyone else. PoetryHound is bland and boring just like the pentatonic scales he has been practicing for so many years. 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia keeps running away from his own claims by presenting irrelevant, tangential, or unsourced claims. That's because arcan is a brainwashed kookspiracy clown who views everything through the distorted lens of conspiracy.

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound's entire youtube channel is dedicated to protecting his belief that he has nothing to learn from anyone. PoetryHound has no personal identity beyond his need to believe he has nothing to learn from anyone so PoetryHound is defending the very heart of his narcissistic personality by telling anyone who presents the personal testimony of NY Firefighters and other witnesses, that they are lying by "making things up". 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound repeatedly asks "Who says there were 3 feet of crawl space under each floor of the 3 WTC buildings?". The answer is that modern construction involves many different trades collaborating in the sequential stages of construction and it is common knowledge that high-rise open-plan office buildings have about three feet of space under every floor for the routing and periodic rearrangement of electricity, telephone and computer cables to the hundreds of desks positions on each floor.

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound It is normal for electricians to crawl around in the under-floor space of modern open-plan offices without the people above knowing they are there. These under-floor spaces also give access to all the vertical steel columns so it is not impossible for the under-floor space to have been used for secret access to the vertical steel columns and pre-planned demolition could also have been facilitated by the 3 highly unusual evacuations of the twin towers during the weeks before 911.

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound The Twin Towers were 1360ft tall and divided into 110 floors, giving 12 feet 3 inches per floor but the floor to ceiling height on each floor was only a little over 9 feet. Even if PoetryHound is determined to protect his ignorance by refusing to comprehend basic arithmetic, other people reading this should measure the floor to ceiling height of the room they are sitting in right now. 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia Okay, great! What's your source for your claim that there was a 3-foot crawl space under each floor? Do you know what the word "source" means?

@PoetryHound It is normal for electricians to crawl around in the under-floor space of modern open-plan offices without the people above knowing they are there. These under-floor spaces also give access to all the vertical steel columns so it is not impossible for the under-floor space to have been used for secret access to the vertical steel columns and pre-planned demolition could also have been facilitated by the 3 highly unusual evacuations of the twin towers during the weeks before 911.

PoetryHound
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@arcanacelestia "It's normal for electricians. . . etc."

Nope, that's not a reference that supports your claim that there were 3 feet of crawl space under each floor at all three WTC buildings. You said there was 3 feet but have failed to substantiate it.

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound Raised floors are essential in high-rise offices to distribute utilities, electricity conduits, telephone lines, computer cables, sprinkler pressure pipes and aircon/heating ducting. Under-office crawl space is typically 2’6” to 3’6” and this link shows the typical height of under floor crawl space.

dot constrata dot co dot uk

WTC = 1360ft divided by 110 floors = over 12ft per floor. Internal ceiling height 9ft so utility space = aprox 3ft per floor.

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PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia "Raised floors. . ."

Nope, that's STILL not a substantiation of your claim that there were 3 feet of crawl space at each of the 2 WTC buildings. See, continuing to claim something is not the same thing as backing it up. Back it up means pointing to someone or something that substantiates what you're claiming about the WTC. You're running away instead of doing that.


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